Climate Change / Energy transition

Daniel Yergin on Energy's New Map


July 14, 2022

Daniel Yergin says minerals will loom large in the transition to renewable energy. (Photo: courtesy of S&P Global)

In This Episode

The energy crises of the early 70s, the 80s, and the early 2000s all had their challenges, but none were so intertwined with other emergencies like a war in Europe, climate change, and a global pandemic. Daniel Yergin won the Pulitzer Prize and many other accolades for his writing on the political economy of global energy. His latest book The New Map: Energy, Climate and the Clash of Nations looks at where today's energy markets are headed and the geopolitics of an energy transition from hydrocarbons to renewable energy. In this podcast, Yergin says renewables use a lot more minerals than people realize and will move us from the world of big oil to a world of big shovels. Transcript

DANIEL YERGIN is vice chairman of S&P Global. His newest book is The New Map: Energy, Climate, and the Clash of Nations. He received a Pulitzer Prize for his book The Prize: The Epic Quest for Oil, Money & Power.

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