DL:
Rises in US interest rates have been a threat to emerging markets’ capital
flows since the 1970s. A recent small increase in 10-year US Treasuries
caused some turbulence. But by any historical standards, a 10-year US
Treasury yield that remains negative in real terms is absurdly low. As long
as that remains the case, the threat of significant capital outflows should
be contained.
F&D:
You both think emerging markets are more resilient for being less
dependent on foreign investors. But are foreign investors also better
at differentiating between countries? Or has the large-scale policy
response from advanced
economies muddied the waters?
RH:
Almost all asset classes collapsed early last year, then bounced back
strongly. Liquidity injections have masked some problems, but not
everywhere. While a rising liquidity tide has certainly lifted many boats,
macro and political drivers ultimately drive asset prices. There has been
reasonable differentiation, certainly in sovereign credit and foreign
exchange.
DL:
The biggest surprise last year was how almost all emerging economies were
able to ease monetary policy. This was significantly facilitated by the
Fed, which basically said, in March of 2020, “Leave it with us; we’ve got
this covered.” That was a very powerful signal that monetary policy could
come to emerging markets’ rescue as well. Fiscal policy turned out to be
more difficult because many countries did not have the firepower of
advanced economies.
F&D:
If long-term rates are moving up because of stronger US growth, could
that offset the impact of higher borrowing costs?
DL:
Under normal circumstances, I would say no. When US monetary conditions
tighten, I think emerging economies lose more through capital outflows than
they gain from more exports. The reason is that in recent years, the main
driver of global investment trade and commodity prices has not been the
United States, but China. Emerging markets’ capital accounts are impacted
by decisions taken in Washington; their current accounts are more
influenced by Beijing.
The ideal combination would be a weaker US, with low interest rates pushing
capital toward emerging markets, and a stronger China boosting trade and
investment. Should the United States be more able to shape global
investment growth with President Biden’s infrastructure plan, that would
help emerging countries, particularly if China refocuses toward
consumption.
F&D:
Emerging markets used unconventional policies more actively. Does this
suggest some countries have more tools in their arsenal than previously
envisaged?
RH:
It’s very hard to generalize: there have been several different forms of
quantitative easing. But compared to only a few years ago, every central
bank has been unconventional. The narrative that emerging countries cannot
do quantitative easing or all hell breaks loose is long past.
DL:
There is a lot of diversity. India, for example, has successfully announced
expansionary fiscal policy together with caps on bond yields. If others
tried that, there would be massive capital outflows. The difference is
often in markets’ confidence about each country’s growth potential, but
also how open their capital account is.
F&D:
How concerned are you about mounting debt burdens? Can emerging
markets, and especially low-income countries, grow their way out of
debt?
RH:
Coping with COVID-19’s financial impact is a global concern. An immediate
concern for me is the disparity in growth rates across countries. Sadly,
vaccine distribution in emerging economies will be much slower than in
advanced ones. Markets are not paying attention to that disparity. Although
emerging economies will bounce back, I don’t see debt-to-GDP levels coming
down to pre–COVID-19 levels for many years.
DL:
I would agree. Accumulating large debt in foreign currency is much more
dangerous. However, we’re still far away from that. Indicators like the
external debt service ratio and debt to foreign exchange reserves ratio
don’t look too stretched in historical terms. Low US interest rates will
help keep the debt service cost low. The common denominator of the 1980s
and 1990s crises was emerging economies’ lack of dollar assets. During the
last 20 years, many of them made strenuous efforts to accumulate foreign
currency reserves. The domestic debt problem is more serious in some
countries. Investors and the IMF have very little experience and don’t know
what such a crisis might look like. Our experience in the last 40 years has
been mostly with foreign debt.
RH:
The biggest difference is that pegged exchange rates have been thankfully
consigned to history. So I don’t think there’s ever going to be another big
systemic emerging markets crisis again. Maybe in some countries at the
corporate level, but certainly not at the sovereign level.
F&D:
Do you expect many countries will need financial assistance from the
IMF or other multilateral institutions? And can the private sector
share the burden of adjustment?
RH:
We have seen record issuances from emerging markets, sovereign and
corporate, in the first quarter of 2021, despite a pretty sizable repricing
of US Treasuries. Some countries facing liquidity or solvency issues will
need more assistance from the Fund and potential private sector
participation in restructurings. They are well known to anyone with a basic
grasp of sovereign balance sheet analysis. I do not think there will be
contagion. There was no contagion from the most recent defaults or
restructurings in Argentina, Ecuador, and Lebanon. Why would it be
different now? The private sector should definitely participate when debt
is clearly unsustainable.
DL:
Portfolio managers are paid to do risk assessment. The IMF first introduced
its lending into arrears policy in the 1980s. If private creditors still
think the IMF will bail them out, they’re not doing their job properly.
F&D:
Can emerging markets and low-income countries benefit from the growing
demand for environmental, social, and governance–compliant borrowing
(ESG)?
RH:
It’s a nascent asset class, but with huge potential. At an estimated $16
billion, it’s still only 4 percent of total funds under management in
emerging markets. All investors are demanding them now—three-quarters of my
client meetings are about our strategies on these investments.
The IMF can play a role in helping smaller countries get involved,
particularly given its commitment to helping them achieve the UN
Sustainable Development Goals. There are now internationally used
principles on green, social, and sustainable bonds—and lots of public and
private data available. The Fund can help in monitoring engagement and
reporting.
F&D:
Should the IMF focus on helping countries develop capacity to issue
green bonds, or on monitoring and enforcement?
RH:
Investment banks are eager to help countries issue these bonds. The Fund
could help more on monitoring and engagement, and especially on social and
governance aspects. It has been encouraging that IMF reports have covered
these issues. Engagement with countries is critical. It’s the question
investors always raise.
DL:
It is a complicated area because money is fungible. A country says it is
raising money to invest in this green project or to build schools in rural
communities. How can we know for sure?
A second problem is that ESG ratings are highly correlated to per capita
GDP. I worry that, as green and socially responsible bonds become more
entrenched in global markets, there could be perverse consequences. Capital
flows to lower-income countries could be at risk.
F&D:
But isn’t that exactly the point, to exert economic pressure on
governments to abandon bad practices?
DL:
Investors are used to making risk-based assessments of ESG. Social and
governance aspects have always been part of the analysis, because they are
part of credit risk. But values-based investing is increasingly the case.
“This country treats its journalists terribly; I couldn’t possibly invest
there until they sort this out,” for example. If that kind of thinking
seeps into the investment process, I’m not sure who benefits. The leverage
investors might have could end up perpetuating a situation.