Previously, only national prosecutors across EU member states could tackle
such criminality, but they lacked jurisdiction beyond their borders. Other
institutions, such as Europol or the EU anti-fraud office OLAF, had no
legal authority to act. The European Commission reports that €140 billion
in VAT revenue was lost in 2018 to fraud and evasion, predicting that
number to increase to €164 billion in 2020 as a result of the pandemic.
Can the EPPO successfully tackle transnational crime? F&D’s Rahim
Kanani interviewed Kövesi to find out.
F&D:
What is the single most important lesson you bring to this new role
from your experience in Romania?
LK:
My experience with Romania’s National Anti-Corruption Directorate is proof
that nobody is above the law and that the law can be applied equally to
everyone, regardless of their position in society. We were able to not only
raise awareness about the seriousness of corruption and how it impacts
people’s lives, but we were also able to show that Romanian institutions
can work efficiently and legally to defeat it. It is not an unsolvable
problem.
F&D:
What are the main challenges to establishing an effective EU
prosecutor’s office?
LK:
We’re building this office from scratch, so there is much work to be done
to get our administrative, budget, and legislative guidelines in order.
There is no precedent for such an office, as we have to harmonize the work
of prosecutors from 22 different member states. They are working in
different judiciaries with different procedural rules, and we have to find
common ground.
The second challenge, once we’re operational, is to be efficient, act
independently, and win the trust of the citizens—which we can only win by
being effective in our efforts and by proving that the law is applied
equally to everyone.
F&D:
Do you have enough resources to achieve your mission?
LK:
After much debate, and with 3,000 cases expected to land on our desks when
we start, we now have funding for 140 European delegated prosecutors, but
we are still missing resources for key Luxembourg-based staff, who will be
key to the success of our mission. We need financial investigators and case
analysts. With their expertise, we can aggregate and analyze information to
investigate cross-border crime more efficiently. Until now, all the
prosecutors were focused on their own internal criminality, and they didn’t
always have access to information outside their borders—like bank accounts
and specific financial transactions. The EPPO makes this possible.
Investigations alone are not enough. Another priority is to get money back
or recover the damages. With more specialized staff based at headquarters,
we can identify goods and bank accounts that can be seized. This will make
all the difference in terms of investigating financial fraud efficiently
and effectively.
Specifically, I’ve been pushing for a budget of €55 million. At this point
we only have €37.7 million. In the context of just how much fraud there is
to investigate—in the billions of dollars—this is not a large sum of money.
F&D:
How will your office decide which cases to pursue?
LK:
The principle of legality is our main guide rather than the principle of
opportunity. In terms of prioritizing, criteria could include the amount of
damages at stake or the statute of limitations. We also have to consider
the position of those suspected. If someone is using their public office to
commit a crime, we may want to focus on that first. We will also need to
rely on national authorities because our work requires cooperation with
national police, tax administrations, and other domestic agencies.
F&D:
How important is investigative journalism in fighting corruption?
LK:
Investigative journalists can be a very good source of information.
Sometimes we opened up investigations based on journalists exposing
potential criminality, and in some cases, they were able to send us
additional documents, recordings, and other materials that proved useful. I
see journalists as partners because they are the ones writing about our
cases, and they can help us educate the public about our work, how
corruption influences their lives, and the seriousness of these topics. In
90 percent of the cases, journalists and prosecutors share the same goal,
but there is one small difference: they are eager to learn more about our
investigations, and we sometimes want to say less. But it’s important to
find common ground.
A few years ago in Romania there was a huge attack against the rule of law,
and there were legislative proposals put forth that would not only cut the
tools and resources of prosecutors to investigate, but they would also
decriminalize clear criminality and corruption. There were proposals to
eliminate the legal guarantee of independence for prosecutors and
subordinate them to the minister of justice; decriminalize abuse of office
offenses amounting to an arbitrarily set figure of 200,000 lei ($47,800);
pardon tax evasion; decriminalize bribes if they were paid through an
intermediary; ban recordings captured in public spaces from being used as
evidence; close investigations if they had not been concluded within one
year; and more.
Journalists explained why it was so important to reject these ideas, and
more than 500,000 people took to the streets to protest these changes and
support the rule of law.
Journalists would also call us and say they had information about potential
illegality, but they wanted to check first whether writing an article might
impede an active investigation—and if so, they would hold back the story.
F&D:
You spoke of winning the trust of citizens as a pillar of
effectiveness. How do you plan to do that?
LK:
When you investigate cases based on solid proof, obtain convictions in
court, and do so in an efficient and independent manner, you can win the
people’s trust. But it’s not something you can do in one or two days. Even
if on day one we open 3,000 cases, or 5,000 cases, it’s not enough. You
need to obtain credible results, and the only way you can achieve this is
to have definitive decisions in the courts for a conviction. This takes
time—two or three years, not two or three days. From the outset, we must
establish ourselves as a strong and independent institution.
Only then will people send us their complaints and tips. In Romania, most
of the cases we opened were based on information provided to us from the
public. In one year alone, complaints from private citizens increased by
more than 60 percent. This is a good indication that people trust you, and
if they trust you, they will confide in you and fight for you. What we do
is not for us, it’s for the benefit of the people. That is justice.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.